After doing much reading this week in the Globe and Mail, I felt it was time to compile a post to discuss.
I think the general consensus by experts and the average person is that the problem is debt. Globe had a quick interview with Margaret Atwood because apparently she is writing a book about debt. Weird, eh? Also, it seems much of her perspective is biblical. In her opinion, one of the biggest problems is student loans and credit cards. I agree that that is a major problem because that's where young adults are taught that there is an unlimited amount of money to borrow and all you have to do is sign up. However, I think she missed something even more simple, but she addressed it indirectly. They asked her how she learned about money and she answered "From having a bank book at eight years old." Then she mentioned elsewhere in the article that her mom was thrifty and her dad liked buying land. She also likes buying land and although she didn't mention it, I'll be she's a bit thrifty too. So, the real root, in my opinion, is poor financial instructions by parents to their children, or the mistake of the children not listening to their parents. Since 'parent-aged' people are also now having debt issues, I'm guessing it's more of the former than the latter.
Elsewhere in the Globe I read another neat quote: "If you don't get a return ON your money and a return OF your money, you don't know how to run a bank." So true. How under the sun could a) a bank offer a zero-down debt and b) people be dumb enough to take one? Well, 'b' is understandable because people will line up for 'free' things, but 'a' is the more disturbing thing. In my opinion, anyone who would take a zero-down, non asset secured loan where your payments are mostly interest, if not all, should not be offered a loan at all. The 'loan interview', if the institutions were smart enough to even have one, should have been like this:
If we offered you a zero-down loan, even though you have nothing to secure it, it's based on market volatility, your job doesn't pay enough to leave you with any fun money, and it will take forever to actually start paying down the principle, would you take it?
If they answer 'yes' then the financial institution should never loan that person money.
But the problem is that they did! They even encouraged it! I remember when we were buying our home that our 10% down was crazy enough. I borrowed from family to make that percentage higher. Even with 30% down it's painful to look at the interest vs. principle payments every month. The financial institutions were operating in the 'now' instead of looking at historical trends. How could they not know that the housing markets will soften at some point? All of these 'borrow from the value of your home to renovate your bathroom' ads have suddenly stopped appearing. Hmm. Why is that?
It's tempting. As an investor you see all these easy loans around and you think "I'll use that easy money and invest and make more." Well, sure. We can and it's possible. But through this situation, I've learned that one must look at the debt ratio very closely before investing in companies. And a company needs to keep their debt ratio in good shape.
The famous "OPM (Other People's Money)" promoted by Rich Dad is a good thing, however, wisdom and lifestyle sacrifices are needed. Can we pay back the debt on time if the market we're in sputters? Before borrowing money against our assets, we need to ask ourselves if we can service those debts if the value of the assets drop 20%.
Thankfully, like Margaret Atwood, I have a go-getter mom and a thrifty dad. I have the boldness to try, but the thriftiness to consider the implications of a debt. I'm sure that through this that we'll grow in wisdom and be even better prepared for future investing.
B.L.I.P. Heros
Monday, September 29, 2008
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We are all indebted to Jesus. That may be a good debt.
However, there are many of us out there with the bad kind.
If you will, please... consider the following:
1. A lot of real estate investment is successful because on something called foreclosure (this is not the only thing). Foreclosure is often due to uncontrollable debt. However, without such foreclosures, some of us might not be able to get good property deals. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Often, banks end up acquiring property through debt. Perhaps banks took a turn for the worse when they started to get too involved in this property thing. Offering unsecured loans is very unheard of.
For people with bad credit, or no credit, there is "hard money" (I'm sure that legs get broken if it is not repaid) or there is the concept of "Microcredit" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcredit
2. Student Loans
I was fortunate enough not to need a student loan, as this is perhaps a very deceiving kind of debt. You pay no interest until you graduate, upon which you hope that you get a "job" that will pay off your loans.
Judging by the world today and the buck that good old education gets you, student loans are quite harsh. Someone told me that it is "good debt... if there is such thing," but that is highly debatable.
What might be funny, is if you could take your student loan and invested in something with a greater return, and essentially have a 0% interest loan for property or other investment.
I have too many friends at the age of 30 whose goals are to pay off their student loans. Education cost money; it doesn't equal money.
In the end, you are still in debt to Jesus.
Those are my 2 cents (interest earned at the bank).
Not-So-Disposable Joe,
1. The wiki on micro-credit was a good read. Thanks for that. I like the term 'pre-bankable'.
Also, yes. Great point on foreclosures. Divorces and deaths also provide such deals to the savvy investor. I will never forget the story I heard while working at a gas station from an angry man going through a divorce:
"I found out that my wife was going to get 50%of the estate so I sold my Ferrari for $1 to some guy."
That 'some guy' may have become a successful investor. Sad, yes, but I know that I would have/could have done good things with the money gained on that 'investment' so the best approach would be to stay focused on the deal, not on the tragedy that people are going through. They do really dumb things through messy divorces and dividing estates after family deaths.
2. Like you, I knew a guy who was 45 years old at the time who had been paying just the interest on his student loan for 10 odd years. At one point in our conversation he mentioned that he was considering personal bankruptcy to get that monkey off his back. Apparently easy money can bite hard later.
Interestingly, I actually know someone through someone who took their student loan, invested it, and did really well! I know you shouldn't do that, but seriously! While he was investing his student loan in valuable investments, the other students were investing theirs in booze and drugs. His is paid off and theirs aren't.
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